PAL is not my airline of choice. Always late, poor service/IFE and a lousy terminal in Manila.
Not too clear about the Covid-19 requirements. I ended up rebooking my flight. Vancouver Canada -connecting flight , staff aren’t helpful. Customer service sucks. Won’t fly Philippine Airlines again.
Easy check in and all around nice flight, clean plane and nice crew. Seats a little small
Pros: "Crew was extremely nice and helpful"
Cons: "Ancient 777 seating"
Pros: "Ahead of departure time"
Cons: "Snacks and should have inflight"
Pros: "The type of plane 330"
Cons: "Its not cold inside."
Pros: "On time, early"
Pros: "Crew was great. Food was excellent."
Cons: "Boarding process. Everyone rushed in when the gate was opened. No sequential boarding."
Pros: "Free space"
Cons: "Layover switch"
Pros: "Excellent crew. Comfortable seat."
Cons: "No entertainment system but who cares on a 1 hour flight."
Cons: "Flight attendants skipped/didnt serve our row any drinks."
Cons: "Food on time"
Pros: "Left on time. Smooth flight"
Cons: "Food and service. Seat was uncomfortable."
Pros: "Crew attitude"
Cons: "Onboard WiFi with streaming IFE service or install seatback IFE systems. On-time departure."
Pros: "Super long delays at each leg"
Pros: "Crew are good"
Cons: "They like to change frequently the hours and connections are a disaster!!! If you are changing or doing connections , make sure You use the airline company and better buying from them directly"
Cons: "Pillows for business class as seat posture hurts the lower back. Needs improvement on loading priority luggages as mine came out together with the economy passengers."
Cons: "Stellar service from check-in especially cabin staff was on point. Thank you PAL"
Pros: "Flight is amazing, sacious seats and best quality entertainment. Most importantly only airlines to give inflight free wifi"
Cons: "Airport crew can be better trained. They have 2step interview process about my travel which is annoying and irrelevant."
Pros: "The steward and stewardess were very nice."
Cons: "The plane was late, making a long day much longer. Worse still, I waited another 30 minutes for the luggage, making it almost 2 hours later before I got to the hotel."
Pros: "Philippine Air staff are amazing. They will do everything possible within their power to make you comfortable."
Cons: "The seats are a little thin and the angle does not give adequate lower back support."
Pros: "nothing good about this airlines they sell cheap fares and overcrowded planes"
Cons: "they do not offer any veg food"
Cons: "The PAL terminal in MNL is one of the worst airports in the world. PAL's in flight service is fine. But they really need to improve their terminal if they want to keep customers"
Pros: "Food is better than most economy boarding and friendly cabin crew service."
Cons: "The tv screens and navigation feels dated, and earphones are a bit combersome. Probably got an older plane though."
Pros: "Truly friendly, service minded and happy cabin crew."
Cons: "A bit messy for the boarding but partly as unruly passengers"
Cons: "Food, be ontime, inflight entertainment"
Pros: "The flight crew was very good."
Cons: "We waited a long time to take off once we boarded on account of the plane not done being loaded."
Pros: "3 meals, drinks, pillow, blanket, toothbrush, toothpaste and sleep mask were included. Staff was friendly and kind. Would definitely fly with them again."
Pros: "Aside from the scare of not making my flight because it was overbooked. I think the boarding process could have been a little more efficient. The staff are amazing as always which is why PAL is my preferred airline when traveling to and within Philippines."
Cons: "Since I have pretty broad shoulders, it’s difficult to sleep in the isles. Not to mention the multiple babies crying. Outside of that, everything was wonderful."
Pros: "The crew were pleasant."
Cons: "The flight was terrible. The boarding process was improperly conducted causing a lack of overhead space in the baggage storage overhead. The entertainment system was broken and the flight transfer process was terrible and confusing. I had the worst trip in over 300 life time trips. I felt like the price was way too high for the service I received! I need a partial refund at a minimun."
Pros: "Flight itself was good"
Cons: "Delay left me with back pain in business lounge. The chairs were really uncomfortable for long stay and left me jet lagged"
Cons: "Flight was 1 1/2 hours late, then bag pickup and extra security for transfer to LAX flight is confusing and multiple lineups."
Pros: "Most of the flight was excellent. The food was really good, the seats were comfortable and I got sleep easily. The cabin crew was excellent. No words to say about that. The inflight entrainment was the best. The IFE improved a lot. Overall a really good experience indeed"
Pros: "The ground stewardess assisted me in boarding my flight since the boarding gate was almost close"
Pros: "Normal flight. It was fine"
Cons: "The transit lounge was awful. Only water available & only 1 ladies toilet. Very crowded & noisy. The staff sat outside the lounge talking & did nothing about what was going on inside the lounge. Needs alot of attention"
Pros: "Other than a crew member that was quite rude all else was ok"
Cons: "Flight attendant was quite rude and snippy... all other crew members were just fine"
Pros: "The flight was on time"
Cons: "Seats are very tight and the only bathrooms were completely at the end of the aircraft."
Pros: "Flight from SFO to Manila was fine. On time without delay. Once we landed in Manila, our connecting flight was delayed. We were stuck at Manila international airport and not allowed to leave after coming through immigration! 8 hours in a terrible airport with no proper restaurant or bar! Only snack and coffee shops. Would have been nice to know ahead of time so that we could have at least gone into town."
Cons: "8 hour delay Being stuck at airport unable to leave Lack of a sit down restaurant or bar"
Cons: "stopover twice from manila, so it is a 3-stop flight. terrible food. lousy airport, super high charge on changing dates. terrible experience with this philippines airlines."
Pros: "most all the touchdowns are seamless no bouncy on the tarmac. the only thing a bit un nerving is the wind blowing on landing and the rear of the plane swings from side to side"
Cons: "sometimes only sometimes, the tea is steeped in a coffee pot ug ug ug change the pot dedicate a pot for tea, perhaps a different color."
Pros: "got lucky and no one sat next to me. Boarding was fast"
Cons: "No Entertainment module, have to pay for Wifi"
Pros: "Drink and snack service on a short flight. Great flight crew and comfortable plane."
Cons: "Our flight was delayed"
Pros: "For group check inc check-in personnel were inflexible. Nearly missed flight despite being in airport 2.5 hours before flight."
Cons: "Personnel were not listening to situation and issues that would be affecting passengersdespite taking to supervisor."
Pros: "HNL to MNL - cost me 10hrs of my precious time as the plane was diverted to Clatk International Airport. MNL to SING - flight was delayed for an hour. SING to MNL - status update from PAL indicated our flight was changed from 10:30 to 11:30 therefore my connecting flight to HNL as well as arrival time has also changed. VERY POOR PAL AIRPORT FACILITY FOR HAVJNG ONLY ONE WORKING RESTROOM FOR THE WHOLE TERMINAL! With flights getting delayed people are anxious and frustrated. There are no place to relaxed and calm down. Staff are everywhere standing and glaring so as the other passenger. Worst airport ever!"
Cons: "See above!"
Cons: "Flight attendant pay more attention and nicer to foreigners than filipino passengers."
Pros: "Not much"
Cons: "Service was bad, delayed flight, etc."
Pros: "The crew was great."
Cons: "The 2 hour delay. Plus waiting another 45 min sitting in the plane until take-off. When we arrived at our destination, we again waited another 30 min or so in the plane until we were allowed to get out of the plane."
Pros: "This was a good flight for the price, I didn't pay a lot and got more than I paid for. Service was OK. Not great, bot terrible, maybe the word I am looking for is "offhand"."
Cons: "I will never fly with them again they tried to charge me 114 us dollars for 1 bag. I only paid 43 dollars for my ticket.."
Pros: "Not Satisfied"
Cons: "Need improvements"
Pros: "Friendly staff; value for the money"
Cons: "Boarding procedures not very organized"
Pros: "The boarding and landing was okay."
Cons: "Crew don’t engage well. Plane smells like poop the whole time."
Pros: "The crew was very nice, but the beer wasn't cold. Then the plane became painfully cold during the flight."
Pros: "Price was great and the crew was friendly"
Cons: "All food and even water cost money. The check in line took extremely long. The seat was not padded enough so I was sitting on a lump the whole trip"
Cons: "Check the general volume off their audio system (recorded voice messages/info/guideline) for the passengers on the plane. It was too loud."
Pros: "All the crew were super pleasant and friendly despite attending to very rude European passengers."
Cons: "Keep up the excellent work!"
Cons: "Want to have a USB charging port on a seat"
Pros: "Serge and the cabin crew were grey. The pilot made up 20 minutes on a 1 hour flight, came in late from previous flight."
Cons: "Scheduling. CP is ALWAYS late, and messes up connections. Hard to coordinate remedies with my phone turned off. It hadn't been once, 10, or 20 times, but EVERY time."
Cons: "Boarding is a fiasco with cebu pacific they should try zones and separate lines like japan!"
Pros: "Exiting the aircraft."
Cons: "Stop charging passengers for water."
Cons: "Improve on the congestion of DVO"
Pros: "Crew was professional and seats were comfortable."
Cons: "It is almost a given that most domestic flights to Manila are delayed and our flight was 1 hour and 10 min delayed. Fortunately, I was getting frequent updates that helped with the planning on when to leave for the airport."
Cons: "Its a cheap airline.what do u expect?"
Pros: "The plane"
Cons: "Be ontime"
Cons: "I had the fattish person next to me who had most of his body in my seat."
Cons: "The delay of my flight was not acceptable."
Pros: "When we got to Manila, it was raining so bad. We had to get off the plane onto a bus. They handed us an umbrella to keep dry from the deluge. It was much needed, under the circumstances."
Cons: "Because of the weather delay, I made it by the skin of my teeth to my next flight. It was quite stressful waiting for my baggage to come out so I could re-check in to my next destination."
Pros: "Was kindly moved to exit row after inquiring at checkin..very nice agent. Very comfortable and great legroom...unlike the hideous crammed in rows behind. Boarded early wjich is unusual for this airline to ever be on time...then sure enough 30 min delay due t9 manila traffic?? This country needs a new major airport or updated traffic control and another runway! This pilot had the smoothest landing...the last few flights have been awful landings, hard and scary"
Cons: "Unsmiling flight attendants...what has happened? The ladt two flights ver sober looks, never smile?"
Cons: "I didn't like everything"
Pros: "The timing of the Cebu Pacific flight from Bali to Manila was fantastic. Short immigrations lines in Bali and upon arrival in Manila. Seats were better than expected, although we paid extra for the 2nd row. Crew was professional."
Cons: "We pre-ordered food and it was soggy and over cooked. Not worth it. Flight left late. Flight attendants were not helpful,"
Pros: "Everyone is profession and the food is great. The value is spot on!"
Pros: "Flgiht staff always nice"
Cons: "The cebu gate staff were awful, uninterested, never made announcemnts and as usual it was a cattle call to board. Rows were not followed. The sandwich i had paid for was all dry bread..it was awful."
Pros: "The flight attendants on the plane were very good very sweet very attentive. I also enjoyed the fact that we got a free meal without a ticket."
Cons: "The service at the airports for your company was abysmal to say the least. The fact that I had to pay over $100 for my bag to be checked was absolutely ridiculous. The personnel for Cebu Pacific at the Denspar airport were borderline hostile, racially discriminating and nasty. If you’re airport employees were half as good as the in-flight attendance I would fly with your company again as of right now you couldn’t pay me to get on your airplane."
Pros: "The crew"
Cons: "Hidden fees..Baggage fees are ridiculous..Just skip this airline,and pay the extra for,Philippine,Air..The price is really the same"
Cons: "Line for check-in was terrible. Wait was more than 45 minutes just to check in."
Cons: "First we pur Cebu Pac flight to davao at 7 am was cancelled dn we book another flight to davao at 5 pm dn it was delayed it is so stressful and inconvenient specially i have a 1 year old baby boy"
Pros: "Early and on time"
Cons: "The Allocation of 5 kg per customer for the check in was too small, and they didn’t have an option to upgrade or increase"
Pros: "Landed early"
Cons: "Worst seats I have ever sat in, took a red eye out of Dubai and the cabin lights were on for over half the flights."
Cons: "No food, no check in luggage but extra fee, no movies, no , no blanket."
Cons: "Flight time was changed from Sunday 6pm to Monday 4am! No space between rows on the flight to Singapore, EXTREMELY incomfortable!"
Pros: "Flight was ahead of time. Friendly crew."
Pros: "The price"
Cons: "3 out of 4 flights were delayed by 2+ hours"
Cons: "I BOUGHT ANOTHER TICKET WITH PHILIPPINE AIRLINES, WHICH LEFT LATER, TODAY AND I HAD NO PROBLEM. NO EXCUSES. SO I PAID TWICE FOR A TICKET TO MANILA FROM BANGKOK. THE BIG PROBLEM IS EVEN WHEN I GOT TO THE AIRPORT WAY AHEAD OF TIME, THE CEBU PACIFIC PEOPLE, JUST DO NOT CARE, THEY DO NOT GIVE A DAM. THIS HAS COST ME A LOT OF MONEY. AND TIME AND STRESS, THERE IS NO REASON TO NOT LET ME ON THE PLANE. I GAVE THEM THE INFORMATION, THEY NEEDED. THE SAME INFORMATION AS I GAVE PHILIPPINE AIRLINES, THAT I DID FLY WITH. I AM SO DISAPPOINTED IN THE HORRIBLE TREATMENT I RECEIVED TODAY."
Pros: "No fuss,simple budget air travel"
Cons: "Nothing,does the job for a 1 hr flight"
Pros: "we had a very tight connection from landing in Manila to catching our flight to El Nido. Cebu's team lead us through the check in process to expedite and save time and even ordered a special shuttle bus for us to take between terminals at the airport. I was very impressed and will be telling everyone I know how great Cebu is."
Cons: "Nothing. All good."
Pros: "We boarded the plane just on time. I wasn't expected ot would be that food."
Cons: "We landed pretty late. ETA was 11:25pm. We landed almosg 12midnight."
Pros: "Crew is great"
Cons: "Ticket agents are awful. Very horrible on baggage"
Pros: "Late arrival of plane meant knock on problems with air traffic in manila... over an hour late ... cebu airlines ok but system poor"
Cons: "Unfortunately delays caused by late arrival of plane - 1 hr late"
Pros: "All - Competitive price and service"
Cons: "Nothing - No negative experience with CP"
Pros: "I'm so sick of this HORRIBLE Airline,. I could not check in online and even called them, they said oh SORRY SIR ,( TYPICAL ) AND WANTED ME TO PAY $595 for my bags on a $290 one way ticket,. Never AGAIN WILL I FLY THESE IDIOTS AIRLINE"
Cons: "I like my choice to fly another airline and that I'm able to deny payment for the flight thru my Credit Card,. ASIANA airlines for $300 and bags included"
Pros: "Accommodating gate agent. Flight was on time"
Cons: "During flight, it's quite shaky."
Cons: "One of the tightest legroom. Said they were giving out sim cards but never got one even after asking for one. It was ok that we didn't get one but not ok that 2 crew members said they will get us one and never did. If you don't have it, just honestly say you don't have enough. Or just don't offer it in the first place!! No drinks... not even a glass of water without having you pay for it."
Cons: "The gate on our boarding pass initially indicated E4 and it was changed to E2 without any notification. The gate was not manned by any airline staff and only the assigned gate had bathrooms. Basically, you have to hold your bodily functions in the general waiting area at the Jakarta airport. Flight was supposed to depart at 12:30pm and a gate change was announced at midnight. We had to move to another part of the terminal, Gate D6 I believe and had to go through security check again. Another badly managed budget airline."
Cons: "In addition to lack of communication of any updates from the staff"
Pros: "very cheap fare"
Cons: "noisy co-passengers, the crew should ask them to stay quiet but they didn't do anything"
Pros: "This is budget no frills airline and it handles the flight pretty well. Seats are small, no entertainment or free food, but staff are very helpful."
Cons: "Check in was appalling! Queue for almost 2 hours with no control of passenger flow so one queue has 5 check in desks the other has just 2. When asked to try and arrange it more fairly the Cebu Pacific staff shrugged their shoulders didn't even smile and said "there is nothing we can do". All they had to do was direct passengers to a check in desk. It was awful service"
Cons: "I haven't been able to take the flight because of corona virus restrictions and haven't been refounded"
Cons: "Every time I’ve used AirAsia it’s been delayed. Instead of being apologetic they’re always smug about how I can take a different airline. So I did!! Never fly with this airline again. Poor service poor flight planning and poor attitude. Shame on you AirAsia."
Pros: "Provided good service and snacks."
Cons: "Seats had very little leg room. Chargers would have been nice. Would have liked to have headphone Jack's for music."
Pros: "We were upgraded to first class."
Cons: "Our flight was delayed 31 minutes. So far, I’ve never departed on time with this airline. I will take responsibility for not prepaying for my check in luggage, but really, $154.00 for 3 suitcases on a 1 hour flight? It’s kinda sad."
Cons: "Free snacks and drinks"
Cons: "No wonder Taoyuan International Airport is one of the worst airports in the world. Even if you have checked in online, there is no separate counter for baggage drop."
Cons: "CUSTOMER SERVICE"
Cons: "I’ve been to over 15 airports in the last month and Since when does the airport have a terminal fee of $17 And they made us check in our bag for $60 per person, I’ve been on many budget airlines before and they never made us do this, never flying with AirAsia again."
Pros: "The comfort of the seat"
Cons: "If they clean the plane before we even boarded... I saw trash on my seat, literally, when I just boarded the plane. Also if the cabin crew were attentive.. 2 male cabin crews were not as attentive to their passengers, but I want to thank the flight supervisor who was very attentive to our needs."
Cons: "The flight is delayed and they never notified us we stayed in the airport for almost 1:30 minutes delayed."
Pros: "Very friendly - free water & snack."
Cons: "The flight was delayed for over an hour."
Cons: "At least free water would have been ok. Paying ng for a glass for a water? What a joke"
Pros: "Good looking flight attendants"
Cons: "7 hrs late, freezing cold, Couldn't understand Captain's English. Terrible website - just doesn't work."
Pros: "Accommodating staff. Arrived safely."
Cons: "Delayed over a delayed flight. Overcharged price, they charged you for processing fee which is not necessary I think for the card."
Pros: "That we made it in one piece"
Cons: "That the flight was almost 2 hours delayed"
Pros: "I guess sometimes it's cheaper than other airlines"
Cons: "There are always delays"
Cons: "This has worse delays than any airlines I've tried."
Pros: "Plane departed and arrived early"
Cons: "They let everyone board via the Zone 1 lane, so my wife and I, carrying a 14kg cranky 2 year old, had to line up behind a long queue of others who didn't have to pay the most expensive premium you can pay on an AirAsia flight. Nonsense."
Pros: "We arrived safe & sound"
Cons: "The flight was cancelled on the way there and on the way back without any notifications. On the way there, I had to run through the airport to catch an earlier flight. On the way back, I waited 4 hrs to catch a later flight. Air Asia did not compensate for my valuable extra time wasted but in addition charged a $30 USD bag fee each time. I will never fly with Air Asia again and will advise friends and family to avoid Air Asia."
Pros: "It was wonderful I bought another round ticket for my wife I be there next year and use you again"
Cons: "Having to pay luggage check in"
Cons: "Seats are very poor. Leg room very poor. I am average size and my knees were touching the front seat. They did not provide even a glass of water that you had to buy. You had to buy food and soft drinks and even then the quality of food was poor. A Terrible airline."
Pros: "The baggage fee was extreme and after I paid it my name was called out in the airports intercom system just to have me come back to the counter and pay more. Very embarrassing. The flight was delayed by 3 hours. A company worried about their reputation might consider reimbursing some portion of the baggage fee when the flight is delayed by 3 hours."
Cons: "Plane was clean and comfortable,"
Cons: "Seating leg room service delays customer service"
Cons: "Instead of getting to manila in 20:00 ive got there on 1:00 am!!!!!!!!"
Pros: "Staff on the plane were nice."
Cons: "The flight was delayed. Boarding took a while and they only had one exit door open upon arrival."
Pros: "I don't like anything about this airlines, they charge us for our luggage. They were late, you couldn't confirm flight online. I WILL NEVER TAKE THIS AIRLINES AGAIN!"
Cons: "It was delayed twice on our trip to and from. They give box lunch of meal to compensate the 2 hrs delay. Very poor in information. Wish it could have been better because our stay in the province was great except the flight!"
Cons: "Had no idea that the maximum for a checked bag was 10kgs (which is nothing if your bag is large enough to check). Having already paid to check a bag I had to fork out another $100 to check my bag (a mid-sized duffle) what a total rip-off and bummer. Then there was the drama about whether I could take my scuba regulator through security or not and then there was the drama about a tripod and then there was the flight! No food (unless you had pre-booked it) and then you had to pay for water.....a new level of low class in low class airlines."
Pros: "I didn't like anything about this year like it was always two to three hours late of ways and the seats were being cramped"
Cons: "I hated this Airline it was the worst Airline ever flown in my life I will never ever fly them again"
Cons: "This airline is a complete joke They have NO IDEA what customer service is Three of us had to rebook an earlier flight, same day as original ticket... NO REIMBURSEMENT, had to pay for three more tickets They broke a fragile purchase and said, too bad. Again, zero compensation. Fly with CEBU AIR!!!!!"
Pros: "Check in was fast, crew was helpful, provided meal in airport for long flight delay"
Cons: "The airlines was great overall. Friendly staff, clean planes. My complaint, albeit a minor one, was that they didn't offer any type of free snack or drink. Most American airlines offer this and it's expected from most foreign passengers. Secondly, our plane was delayed about 5 hours for "traffic congestion" at Manila Airport. It looks like they only have one plane that travels the Puerto Princessa to Manila route so keep that in mind if you need to be somewhere on time. Philippines Airlines and Cebu Pacific Air had multiple planes coming and going durongbthis delay. I saw not a single AirAsia plane durong this delay. They sent an update email about a week or so that the flight was being moved up 2 hours, but no text saying that the flight was delayed. We could've spent an extra half day in El Nido if we had known. But still, I would probably fly with then again."
Cons: "The flight was delayed twice adding up to a five hour delay. The crew gave no reason , no apology, complete lack of communication was astounding. When i mentioned it to other travel agents they all said the same thing, Air Asia is always delayed, i was told to use other airlines. Indeed, while awaiting my flight to Manilla I saw 2 Philippines Air flights depart on time. One of my fellow travellers had given themselves7 hours between flights and missed their flight to Dubai because of the delay."
Pros: "everything was ok"
Cons: "Does not leave on time."
Pros: "The price the price the price"
Cons: "You get what you pay for."
Cons: "My sister in law was not allowed on the flight they refused to let her on the flight. I hope you did not charge my credit card. I want reimbursement if so. 1209-480-8796 James please call me"
Pros: "Tube boarding and deplaning"
Cons: "Walking ; not even a bus?"
Cons: "Five hours sitting in the terminal in Kalibo!! No weather issues!! Baggage fees at ticket counter. Considering the fare we paid this is not a big deal. But the delays?? Leaving Manila, we sat on the plane at the gate for over 90 minutes!! Waiting for clearance to take off because of heavy air traffic in Kalibo?? They have five gates there!! Not a whole lot of sympathy doled out by theses folks either. A piece of chicken and ball of rice at the gate in Kalibo hardly compensates for the excessive inconvenience we endured on both legs of our journey. Might consider directing my business elsewhere on future travel endeavors."
Cons: "The plane was late for 1.5 hours!! We almost missed our next flight from the same company ant the staff didn't want to help us at all to get to the next flight no matter how much we asked them. Unbelievable!!!"
Cons: "I tried to cancel my reservation, no refunds, no changes and no cancellations. Lost all my $400 for nothing. I would not recommend them to anyone."
Cons: "Late but that's expected"
Cons: "Your flights are either late or rescheduled."
Pros: "Not much but the flight crew was alright."
Cons: "I've taken AirAsia twice on my travels in the Philippines, one of the times, the flight was very very delayed.The other, they changed the flight time 2 hours AHEAD of schedule and made that flight the last flight out for a day. Called the customer service hotline and they have terrible customer service, did not really come up with any solutions and I was placed on hold numerous times for a very long time. I ended up having to wait until the next day to get on a flight, which made me lose a day at my other destination."
Cons: "Delayed flights. no compensation for customers that had to pay more for hotels Bec of their delays. no considerations"
Pros: "Overall it was an ok flight. But there are so many limits to baggage what your weight limit is and isn't. I have to put things in 2 separate bags to prevent extra cost. Gees. It was out of control. I had on carry on and everything was under 10kg. But the one bag was limited to 7. Hence extra bag to carry other stuff. Didn't make sense to me. So I'll never fly on this airline again. Ill go back to Cebu Pacific Airlines. So much more better flights."
Cons: "Our helper who got the ticket were made to pay for her carry-on baggage because the allowance was only 2 kilos. The penalty was almost the price of the ticket. I already paid for the check in baggage which is around a third of the ticket cost. Next time you know, you will pay just to use the toilet."